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		<title>New York Skywatch September 25, 2010</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 16:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kidstardust</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geoengineering the Climate: Ethics, Potential and Politics Speakers: Eli Kintisch, author, reporter, Science Scott Barrett, Lenfest-Earth Institute Professor of Natural Resource Economics, School of International and Public Affairs, Columbia University. &#8212;- In Eli Kintisch&#8217;s talk, he essentially says, geoengineering is a big risk, not a good idea, but inevitable.  Inevitable, because if this country doesn&#8217;t [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>Geoengineering the Climate: Ethics, Potential and Politics</strong><br />
<strong>Speakers:</strong></p>
<p><strong> Eli Kintisch, author, reporter, Science </strong></p>
<p><strong>Scott Barrett, Lenfest-Earth Institute Professor of Natural Resource Economics, School of International and Public Affairs, Columbia University.</strong></p>
<p><strong>&#8212;-</strong></p>
<p>In Eli Kintisch&#8217;s talk, he essentially says, geoengineering is a big risk, not a good idea, but inevitable.  Inevitable, because if this country doesn&#8217;t begin to experiment with geoengineering another country will.  His rhetoric seemed strangely similar to David Keith, physicist from Calgary Canada.</p>
<p>Scott Barret, agrees with Eli and goes a step further. He says, the democratic process to decide whether geoengineering is necessary will vanish during an emergency situation when this technology needs to be deployed.  There will be mistakes and problems Scott says as the experiments to alter the atmosphere chemically and reflect the sun with mirrors in space.<br />
All of this hinged on the climate data from the IPCC and other sources that point to a warming planet that needs to be cooled down and possibly cooled down in a hurry.</p>
<p>Both speakers were asked to comment about the ongoing aerosol program. Eli says it&#8217;s a conspiracy, and doesn&#8217;t believe it. Scott doesn&#8217;t know anything about it.  Yet Eli knows there is some info and websites about the topic, while he hasn&#8217;t researched much about the ongoing aerosol programs, he knows enough to say he doesn&#8217;t believe and if someone does raise the topic publicly he will dismiss it by calling it a conspiracy.</p>
<p>I wonder what their views on climate gate are?</p>
<p><strong>Here is a recent article by Dr. Ilya Sandra Perlingieri- </strong><strong><a href="http://www.rense.com/general92/obs.htm">Observations On A Damaged Society.</a></strong> <strong>&#8220;Over the past three years, in order to investigate and observe more closely the vast weather modification across the United States and Canada, I have driven back and forth across the country four times. As part of my research, I also have met with some of the top scientists and researchers. What I knew to be the &#8220;United&#8221; States (now heavily manipulated behind the scenes by powerful corporations and compliant federal and state governments) today is hardly to be seen.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Some of the US façade remains. But the very deep chasms (no longer mere cracks in our society) are evident everywhere. In fact, one could equate another level of our economic and political chaos with the explosions and underwater chasms in the Gulf of Mexico oil rig catastrophe. It is all part of the bigger, inter-related picture of destruction.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://web.me.com/carolepellatt/DOWNLOADABLE_MILITARY_REPORTS/DOWNLOADABLE_REPORTS.html">Carol Pellatt&#8217;s downloadable military reports</a> <a href="http://agriculturedefensecoalition.org/?q=weather-modifications">/ Rosalind Peterson&#8217;s exhaustive list of weather control studies and pdfs.</a></strong></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://newyorkskywatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/IMG_1308.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1329" title="IMG_1308" src="http://newyorkskywatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/IMG_1308.jpg" alt="" width="538" height="324" /></a><br />
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 Eli Kintisch, author, reporter, Science 

Scott Barrett, Lenfest-Earth Institute Professor of Natural Resource Economics, School of International and ...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Geoengineering the Climate: Ethics, Potential and Politics
Speakers:

 Eli Kintisch, author, reporter, Science 

Scott Barrett, Lenfest-Earth Institute Professor of Natural Resource Economics, School of International and Public Affairs, Columbia University.

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In Eli Kintisch's talk, he essentially says, geoengineering is a big risk, not a good idea, but inevitable.nbsp; Inevitable, because if this country doesn't begin to experiment with geoengineering another country will.nbsp; His rhetoric seemed strangely similar to David Keith, physicist from Calgary Canada.

Scott Barret, agrees with Eli and goes a step further. He says, the democratic process to decide whether geoengineering is necessary will vanish during an emergency situation when this technology needs to be deployed.nbsp; There will be mistakes and problems Scott says as the experiments to alter the atmosphere chemically and reflect the sun with mirrors in space.
All of this hinged on the climate data from the IPCC and other sources that point to a warming planet that needs to be cooled down and possibly cooled down in a hurry.

Both speakers were asked to comment about the ongoing aerosol program. Eli says it's a conspiracy, and doesn't believe it. Scott doesn't know anything about it.nbsp; Yet Eli knows there is some info and websites about the topic, while he hasn't researched much about the ongoing aerosol programs, he knows enough to say he doesn't believe and if someone does raise the topic publicly he will dismiss it by calling it a conspiracy.

I wonder what their views on climate gate are?

Here is a recent article by Dr. Ilya Sandra Perlingieri- Observations On A Damaged Society. "Over the past three years, in order to investigate and observe more closely the vast weather modification across the United States and Canada, I have driven back and forth across the country four times. As part of my research, I also have met with some of the top scientists and researchers. What I knew to be the "United" States (now heavily manipulated behind the scenes by powerful corporations and compliant federal and state governments) today is hardly to be seen.

Some of the US faccedil;ade remains. But the very deep chasms (no longer mere cracks in our society) are evident everywhere. In fact, one could equate another level of our economic and political chaos with the explosions and underwater chasms in the Gulf of Mexico oil rig catastrophe. It is all part of the bigger, inter-related picture of destruction."

Carol Pellatt's downloadable military reports / Rosalind Peterson's exhaustive list of weather control studies and pdfs.


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		<title>New York Skywatch July 11, 2009</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kidstardust</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Skywatchers, Below is an email from a skywatcher who gives us insight on how the aerosol spraying has been less obvious lately. He also points out how many of us have turned away from the uncertain realities, maybe hoping it will just go away. Is it true as some say, according to Ouspensky&#8217;s theory from [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_RK636kKDw" target="_blank"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-789" title="Still of two planes taken from video" src="http://newyorkskywatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/planes.jpg" alt="Still of two planes taken from video" /></a></p>
<p>Skywatchers,</p>
<p>Below is an email from a skywatcher who gives us insight on how the aerosol spraying has been less obvious lately. He also points out how many of us have turned away from the uncertain realities, maybe hoping it will just go away.</p>
<p>Is it true as some say, according to Ouspensky&#8217;s theory from <a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=2&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FIn_Search_of_the_Miraculous&amp;ei=9OJYSpfAFoqMtgfBpt3dCg&amp;rct=j&amp;q=In+Search+of+the+Miraculous&amp;usg=AFQjCNFnLEpxeTEsqjw7s_WTqcgzlGRJzg">In Search of the Miraculous</a>, that &#8220;theoretically, a man could awaken, but in practice this is almost impossible? As soon as a man awakens for a moment and opens his eyes, all the forces that caused him to fall asleep in the first place begin to act on him with tenfold energy. He immediately falls asleep again, very often dreaming that he is awake.&#8221; (Knight-Jadczyk)</p>
<p><strong>Thank you Dennis for the note, and have a great birthday.</strong><br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Today is my 43rd birthday. A few minutes ago, I returned from a morning trip to the garden. Low-flying plane (larger than Cessna) came overhead and as it disappeared over the tree line a dense blanket of heavy chemical smells, like broad-leaf killer, descended on the whole area. In an instant. One moment I was smelling chamomile and the next chemical. It was so thick and heavy, that it persists in my lungs! Unbelievable. Was it a farm-sprayer? Didn&#8217;t look like it. I didn&#8217;t see anything that looked like crop-dusting pipe apparatus on the plane. I haven&#8217;t seen more of the large dark cargo planes like the other month, but lately I&#8217;ve been wondering about these recent low flying planes. Are they doing specific target ops like home gardeners???</p>
<p>Over the last month, the standard chemtrails have shifted their pattern to begin around 6 or 7 pm, are more faint and in shorter runs . . . not as thick long billowy and blatant. Heavier trails begin later atop the haze that develops from the scant trails. You can see the layers from light refraction/reflection, still quite obvious to me, criss-crossing the sky. No one, except my children seems to believe me or care.</p>
<p>Where in the world is this NOT happening?</p>
<p>Barefooted walks across the lawn the other day resulted our feet being covered in black and sparkly dust (see attached). This is unusual, and now it&#8217;s gone.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try to be more vigilant with the camera, but for what purpose? Imagine the vastness of personnel carrying-out the spraying! Think of the World Trade Center towers . . . it is right in the public&#8217;s face, so flagrant, but how does a community of seers stop it unless there are enough corroborating inside leaks and mass-mind media coverage?</p>
<p>} Dennis<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
<strong>Check out this recent capture of two very different planes in the sky.</strong></p>
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		<title>New York Skywatch August 7, 2008</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kidstardust</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Skywatchers, Kent Daniel Bentkowski â€œKentroversy&#8221; has passed away. For many readers, Kentroversy was very important in exposing the details and inside information regarding the global elite. He deconstructed Stanley Kubrick&#8217;s Eyes Wide Shut and paved the way for others to see deeper into films. Red Ice Creations acknowledgements. He will be missed by many. [...]]]></description>
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Dear Skywatchers,</p>
<p><a href="http://kentroversypapers.blogspot.com/">Kent Daniel Bentkowski â€œKentroversy&#8221; </a>has passed away. For many readers, Kentroversy was very important in exposing the details and inside information regarding the global elite. He deconstructed Stanley Kubrick&#8217;s  Eyes Wide Shut and paved the way for others to see deeper into films.  <a href="http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=4508">Red Ice Creations acknowledgements</a>. He will be missed by many.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s video of an unmarked plane dumping cargo over NYC. This material was taken by upper level winds that created giant sweeping plumes.</p>
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<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>An object over NYC Aug 2008</p>
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<p><strong>This is a label on gallon jugs of distilled water. We&#8217;re posting this in response to comment below.</strong></p>
<p><a href='http://newyorkskywatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/fluoride.JPG' title='fluoride.JPG'><img src='http://newyorkskywatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/fluoride.JPG' alt='fluoride.JPG' /></a></p>
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		<title>Skywatchradio June 18, 2007</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 02:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kidstardust</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guest &#8211; Meteorologist, Scott Stevens Part 2 Dear Skywatchers, this is the second hour of an exclusive interview with meteorologist Scott Stevens. Scott is the creator of weatherwars.info, a groundbreaking website that brought photographic evidence of weather control to the homes of thousands. As you can tell, when you visit the site, Scott has been [...]]]></description>
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<p><br />
Dear Skywatchers, this is the second hour of an exclusive interview with meteorologist Scott Stevens.  Scott is the creator of <a href="http://www.weatherwars.info/holes01.htm">weatherwars.info</a>, a groundbreaking website that brought photographic evidence of weather control to the homes of thousands. As you can tell, when you visit the site, Scott has been very busy.   In fact heâ€™s chasing tornadoes this month for a documentary.  In the interview, Scott explains the goal of this storm chasing and what the team hopes to discover outside the conventional science of meteorology. </p>
<p><strong> The content of this show is a bit scary. There&#8217;s some doom and gloom being forecast based on <a href="http://www.halfpasthuman.com/">halfpasthuman.com</a>, fear not skywatchers, we are challenged once again to maintain our inner locus of control and think positively at this time. </strong></p>
<p><a href='http://newyorkskywatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/square-cld.JPG' title='square-cld.JPG'><img src='http://newyorkskywatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/square-cld.JPG' alt='square-cld.JPG' /></a></p>
<p>AirshipAl and I covered the spectra of topics from catastrophic coastal events to ways of using positive thoughts and spiritual alignment to minimize cataclysmic events. We think there&#8217;s a spiritual way to interact with the planet&#8217;s natural energy in the same communication of the Indian rain dance.  Scott also finishes up the story about his friend who while working late at the Kennedy Space Center turned down a hallway and came face to face with a 10 foot tall human-like being with good energy. </p>
<p><a href='http://newyorkskywatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/orb.JPG' title='orb.JPG'><img src='http://newyorkskywatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/orb.JPG' alt='orb.JPG' /></a></p>
<p>We talk briefly about orbs and things that have been caught on camera many times and we&#8217;ve also watched them move around.  <a href="http://newyorkskywatch.com/?page_id=159">Could there be warehouses of air conditioned rooms with tech-heads in front of banks of monitors and joysticks moving these &#8220;orbs&#8221; around in the sky?  Maybe so, but here at newyorkskywatch, we think it&#8217;s important to investigate.</a></p>
<p>We have some other startling discoveries as well to share with you very soon. Stay with us!!</p>
<p>KidStarDust.</p>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Guest - Meteorologist, Scott Stevens Part 2




Dear Skywatchers, this is the second hour of an exclusive interview with meteorologist Scott Stevens.  Scott is the ...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Guest - Meteorologist, Scott Stevens Part 2




Dear Skywatchers, this is the second hour of an exclusive interview with meteorologist Scott Stevens.  Scott is the creator of weatherwars.info, a groundbreaking website that brought photographic evidence of weather control to the homes of thousands. As you can tell, when you visit the site, Scott has been very busy.   In fact heacirc;euro;trade;s chasing tornadoes this month for a documentary.  In the interview, Scott explains the goal of this storm chasing and what the team hopes to discover outside the conventional science of meteorology. 

 The content of this show is a bit scary. There's some doom and gloom being forecast based on halfpasthuman.com, fear not skywatchers, we are challenged once again to maintain our inner locus of control and think positively at this time. 



AirshipAl and I covered the spectra of topics from catastrophic coastal events to ways of using positive thoughts and spiritual alignment to minimize cataclysmic events. We think there's a spiritual way to interact with the planet's natural energy in the same communication of the Indian rain dance.  Scott also finishes up the story about his friend who while working late at the Kennedy Space Center turned down a hallway and came face to face with a 10 foot tall human-like being with good energy. 



We talk briefly about orbs and things that have been caught on camera many times and we've also watched them move around.  Could there be warehouses of air conditioned rooms with tech-heads in front of banks of monitors and joysticks moving these "orbs" around in the sky?  Maybe so, but here at newyorkskywatch, we think it's important to investigate.

We have some other startling discoveries as well to share with you very soon. Stay with us!!

KidStarDust.

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		<title>Skywatch News June 5, 2007 &#8211; Debunking Debunkers</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 19:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kidstardust</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[PREVIOUS SKYWATCH RADIO &#8211; GUEST: Writer/Musician: Victoria Hardy &#160; &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; The Hall of Mirrors &#8211; Debunking Debunkers. &#8211; AirshipAl Why do some people insist that persistent jet contrails are normal and we should drop our investigations? They say that they have the science to refute our claims of abnormality. However, after I posted a YouTube [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font face="Adler"><strong>PREVIOUS SKYWATCH RADIO </strong></font><strong> &#8211; GUEST:  <a href="http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewByAuthor.asp?authorID=1390&#038;resultsPerPage=25&#038;pageNumber=1">Writer/Musician: Victoria Hardy</a></strong></p>
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<strong>The Hall of Mirrors &#8211; Debunking Debunkers.</strong>  &#8211; <em>AirshipAl</em></p>
<p>Why do some people insist that persistent jet contrails are normal and we should drop our investigations? They say that they have the science to refute our claims of abnormality. However, after I posted a <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cVSEzpfyrM">YouTube video about sundogs</a> , I was targeted by a gentleman in Los Angeles who is trying to convince me that what I am seeing is not real? He put up a website (contrailscience.com) and it is interesting.  However, it fails to address many issues including why jet contrails appear as if the jet engine is being deliberately turned on and off. We all know that itâ€™s not true.  </p>
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<p>Also, not addressing why jet aircraft are leaving persistent contrails in grid patterns. Shouldn&#8217;t the entire sky be filled with contrails? Would we ever see any truly blue sky again if all jets left persistent contrails behind?</p>
<p>I know that contrails are formed under certain weather conditions and altitudes. However, there are times when conditions do not exist for contrails to persist. Certain contrails even look like they are laden with chemicals. You know the ones I mean. The ones that appear to drip by the weight of their own substance, mushrooming along the bottom edge of the trail. C&#8217;mon what&#8217;s in this stuff. It doesn&#8217;t even look like ordinary condensation to me.</p>
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<p>Speaking of abnormal, I have seen jets emitting contrails that are dark in appearance. I assumed that it might be the lighting conditions until I saw the black and white contrails side by side &#8211; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1c8decId4s">check out this video</a>. </p>
<p>Another interesting aspect to these dark trails is that the material drifts to the ground in clouds that resemble the black smoke from a nearby fire. I have observed this process several times in the fall.  I haven&#8217;t seen them since the beginning of the year. And then there&#8217;s the other trails that appear to swallow up other trails and clouds. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUUz9ooy7-U">One of my YouTube videos shows this quite clearly</a>. </p>
<p>My first impression was that someone had a HUGE washcloth and scrubbed a portion of the sky. And then I saw jets going through the cloud mass and the contrails that were left created lines in the mass that expanded and left the cloud in sections.</p>
<p><a href='http://newyorkskywatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/trail-above-nyc.JPG' title='trail-above-nyc.JPG'><img src='http://newyorkskywatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/trail-above-nyc.JPG' alt='trail-above-nyc.JPG' /></a></p>
<p>Whether this is a giant conspiracy or not is interesting. However, it has been shown that jet contrails are affecting our atmosphere and their affects are unknown at this time. I do not believe Al Gore and the like. We should be addressing<a href="http://www.strangeattractor.co.uk/further/?p=569"> climate engineering and weaponizing the atmosphere</a> with global warming.  My concerns are about pollution and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_dimming">global dimming</a>. Why is the public being left in the dark about matters that affect our very existence? Why do some people feel it is their responsibility to tell us that everything is fine and we should go about our business when legitimate questions need to be answered? <a href="http://newyorkskywatch.com/debunking-thread/">Skywatchers, check out the thread of this joker of his debunking logic.</a></p>
<p>This lame debunker refuses to examine that this is not normal commercial airtraffic. The patterns are plainly geometric and usually laid down along weather storm fronts ie guiding jet streams. Heâ€™s from L.A. and it seems that part of is mired in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Brea_Tar_Pits">La Brea tarpits</a> of denial.<br />
<a href="http://educate-yourself.org/cn/chemtrailsLAcentral23may07.shtml"></p>
<p>Los Angeles is well documented as a high spray zone</a> &#8211;  this is not normal air traffic. This joker would be an excellent ally in our quest for scientific data only when he recognizes this aerosol operation is being illegally conducted above the good people on this planet.<br />
The danger here is that this â€œdebunkerâ€™sâ€ data can persuade the person who is on the fence to accept the â€œrationalâ€ explanation. It actually a lot of work to ignore this operation being conducted in plain sight. What does this person want to do? Why so persistent in continuing on when asked not to?</p>
<p><a href="http://newyorkskywatch.com/airshipal/">&#8212;AirshipAl<br />
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<p><a href='http://newyorkskywatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/plane-w-out-trail.JPG' title='plane-w-out-trail.JPG'><img src='http://newyorkskywatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/plane-w-out-trail.JPG' alt='plane-w-out-trail.JPG' /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://educate-yourself.org/">Ken Adachi, Editor of the well known site Educate-yourself</a> writes an inspiring response to another skywatcher handling debunker fallout from his amazing skywatch evidence.</p>
<p><em> &#8220;Your observation about the disinfo swarm is VERY useful. We need to be prepared for the mind controlled zombies out there and not be deterred or demoralized by their knee jerk attacks.</p>
<p>Do not regret your decision to post. Despite the naysayers, you will ALWAYS touch those who recognize the truth, but who aren&#8217;t necessarily ready to defend you over a chat forum. That doesn&#8217;t mean that you didn&#8217;t have a net positive effect. Truth will always win out over falsity. Truth has a &#8216;CARRYING POWER&#8221; of its own that is independent of you. Just get it out there and the universe will do the rest. &#8221;</p>
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		<itunes:subtitle>PREVIOUS SKYWATCH RADIO  - GUEST:  Writer/Musician: Victoria Hardy    #160; 
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The Hall of Mirrors - Debunking Debunkers.  - AirshipAl

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		<itunes:summary>PREVIOUS SKYWATCH RADIO  - GUEST:  Writer/Musician: Victoria Hardy    #160; 
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The Hall of Mirrors - Debunking Debunkers.  - AirshipAl

Why do some people insist that persistent jet contrails are normal and we should drop our investigations? They say that they have the science to refute our claims of abnormality. However, after I posted a YouTube video about sundogs , I was targeted by a gentleman in Los Angeles who is trying to convince me that what I am seeing is not real? He put up a website (contrailscience.com) and it is interesting.  However, it fails to address many issues including why jet contrails appear as if the jet engine is being deliberately turned on and off. We all know that itacirc;euro;trade;s not true.  




Also, not addressing why jet aircraft are leaving persistent contrails in grid patterns. Shouldn't the entire sky be filled with contrails? Would we ever see any truly blue sky again if all jets left persistent contrails behind?


 
I know that contrails are formed under certain weather conditions and altitudes. However, there are times when conditions do not exist for contrails to persist. Certain contrails even look like they are laden with chemicals. You know the ones I mean. The ones that appear to drip by the weight of their own substance, mushrooming along the bottom edge of the trail. C'mon what's in this stuff. It doesn't even look like ordinary condensation to me.



Speaking of abnormal, I have seen jets emitting contrails that are dark in appearance. I assumed that it might be the lighting conditions until I saw the black and white contrails side by side - check out this video. 
 
Another interesting aspect to these dark trails is that the material drifts to the ground in clouds that resemble the black smoke from a nearby fire. I have observed this process several times in the fall.  I haven't seen them since the beginning of the year. And then there's the other trails that appear to swallow up other trails and clouds. One of my YouTube videos shows this quite clearly. 

My first impression was that someone had a HUGE washcloth and scrubbed a portion of the sky. And then I saw jets going through the cloud mass and the contrails that were left created lines in the mass that expanded and left the cloud in sections.


 
Whether this is a giant conspiracy or not is interesting. However, it has been shown that jet contrails are affecting our atmosphere and their affects are unknown at this time. I do not believe Al Gore and the like. We should be addressing climate engineering and weaponizing the atmosphere with global warming.  My concerns are about pollution and global dimming. Why is the public being left in the dark about matters that affect our very existence? Why do some people feel it is their responsibility to tell us that everything is fine and we should go about our business when legitimate questions need to be answered? Skywatchers, check out the thread of this joker of his debunking logic.


This lame debunker refuses to examine that this is not normal commercial airtraffic. The patterns are plainly geometric and usually laid down along weather storm fronts ie guiding jet streams. Heacirc;euro;trade;s from L.A. and it seems that part of is mired in the La Brea tarpits of denial. 


Los Angeles is well documented as a high spray zone -  this is not normal air traffic. This joker would be an excellent ally in our quest for scientific data only when he recognizes this aerosol operation is being illegally conducted above the good people on this planet. 
The danger here is that this acirc;euro;oelig;debunkeracirc;euro;trade;sacirc;euro; data can persuade the person who is on the fence to accept the acirc;euro;oelig;rationalacirc;euro; explanation. It actually a lot of work to ignore this operation being conducted in plain sight. What does this person want to do? Why so persistent in contin...</itunes:summary>
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